J'ai 17 ans , j'ai déjà posté sur ce forum , mais je viens pour autre chose =) .
J'aimerais savoir si des gens sont partis jeunes au Canada pour y suivre une formation de Pliote professionel ( Avion léger ) .
Je me suis renseigné et apparemment , pour environ 52 000 $ , on Acquiert le PPL , le CPL , l'annotation multi-moteurs , et l'IFR multimoteurs pour titulaires de CPL , ainsi qu'un total de 200h de Vol .
Je voudrais savoir si avec ces qualifications il est difficile de trouver un emploi au Canada ?
Et surtout , je vais vous faire partager ce que j'ai un peu " planifié " pour les années à venir , vous pourrez me dire ce que vous en pensez :
Etant donné que je ne suis pas riche et mes parents non plus , il faut que je trouve le moyen de financer ma formation tout d'abord .
Je pense aller à la fac de langues pour apprendre à parler couramment l'anglais et l'espagnol tout d'abord ( Licence = 3 ans ) , et durant ce temps , économiser en travaillant à temps partiel ou au noir , + le rugby ( à peu prés 400 euros / mois ) .
Au bout de trois ans , en ayant gratté le maximum , mes parents mettront surement le reste ( ou pas ) .
Bref la question n'est pas l'argent ici , mais ce que je dois faire quand je suis prés à partir pour commencer ma formation .
Il faut prendre contact avec l'école que l'on a choisit ? Il doit y avoir une tonne de truc à remplir pour bouger au Canada ? Et si on compte rester longtemps , et donc prendre un apart , on doit changer de nationalité ? Ou ... ?
Je n'y connais rien à vrai dire , donc si vous pouviez m'éclairer
Une très bonne idée de commencer par une licence universitaire : tu auras une formation sur laquelle miser au cas où tes projets aéronautiques devaient foirer.
Avant de partir, il te faut passer ton examen médical classe 1 en France, auprès d'un médecin agrée par Transports Canada. Tu trouveras le médecin le plus proche de ton domicile ici : http://www.tc.gc.ca/aviation/applicatio ... p?x_lang=f
inutile en effet de t'inscrire dans une école et de partir si tu ne peux pas passer la licence CPL à cause du médical.
Une fois inscrit dans une école (après avoir payé la taxe d'inscription), celle-ci t'enverra une lettre qui te permettra de demander un visa d'étudiant auprès de l'Ambassade du Canada ou du Consulat compétent pour ton lieu de domicile.
Pour ce qui est de la demande de résidence permanente, je laisse les forumeurs expérimentés te répondre.
Les (généralement) 100 $ "non refundable" que les écoles demandent pour "traiter" le dossier d'inscription. Ils s'assurent ainsi qu'il ne s'agit d'une inscription bidon.
C'est de l'arnaque, quelque soit l'ecole, vous ne devriez jamais a avoir a faire un tel depot d'argent, cela complique juste un peu plus les choses si vous avez envie de changer d'ecole, les $100 de frais d'inscription n'ont aucun sens: "bien, vous allez claquer 35,000$ dans notre ecole, alors pour les frais de dossier on va vous prendre 100$..."
A ce sujet, Harvey avait ecrit 2 articles fort interessant (le depot d'argent est necessaire QUE pour CERtAIN pays qui ont besoin d'avoir un visa avant de venir (ce qui n'est pas le cas pour les francais)
Over the years I have very much appreciated the confidence that our customers have placed in us. Confidence that has some sending us thousands of dollars before they have even met us or seen our operation. In the case of some foreign applicants this is a requirement conditional to the granting of a visa to come and study in Canada. The Canadian government may ask for evidence of funds deposited in a Canadian bank showing that funds are available to complete the desired training.
As president of Harv’s Air over the years I have also heard of many student pilots depositing large amounts of money at flight schools in Canada and in the USA only to find that the school was not able to deliver promised training or worse yet to go out of business altogether leaving the student locked out with his or her money tied up in some hopeless tangle. Any hopes of a refund are usually between unlikely and impossible.
What can a prospective student do to protect themselves from such a terrible situation? Do your research! How long has the flight school been in operation? Do they own or lease their aircraft, hangars, offices and other related equipment? Do they ask for large amounts of money upfront with the promise of discounts or gifts if this is done? Are references or testimonials available of students who have trained there in the past? Can you spend the time and money to personally check out the school and talk to their staff? Can you afford not to do this?
Be aware of organizations that ask and encourage that large sums of money be paid upfront! Although flight schools are not a bank in that you should owe them money, likewise they are not a bank in that they should be sitting on a lot of your money. Sadly there are a lot of schools spending today’s money paying 2 month old bills (or older). Unusually bad weather, sudden increase in costs, 9-11, SAR’s or just about anything may be enough to push some of these businesses over the edge.
Prepaying large sums also means you lose control. What incentive does the school have to serve you if they have your money already?
Again I say, do your homework, check things out. That way you can be confident that the training organization you pick will see you through all your training.
Happy Landings
Greetings,
What are the factors that help you choose a flight school? Are you considering all the facts? Do you believe everything that the schools are telling you? Over the past 30 years in the flight training industry I have had a lot of feedback from our students. Frequently students come to us who have started flight training at another school and now choose to finish with us. Here are some of the things that they were told and some things that schools and flying clubs are still telling their new customers.
“Enroll now, tremendous career opportunities exist”
Many of us in the industry cannot imagine doing anything else for a living. How did we get here, or how has any pilot reached their present flying position? Does the school you are at provide you with a realistic assessment of your future as a commercial pilot? We find that most don’t. They are trying to sell you flight training. Period. New students are shown pictures of glass cockpits, large jets, and being told that the airlines are hiring and now is the time to get started.
Here are the facts;
The reality is that all pilots have to start with entry level flying jobs. Entry level flying jobs are hard to get. After the completion of your commercial licence, a new hire has one problem: you have minimal experience. You are competing with other commercial pilots who have the same problem. You will have to sell yourself, have the type of training and experience that the entry level aviation companies want, and you will need some timing, (right place at the right time). This has always been the case.
Even during several recessions I have seen pilots land their first flying jobs when there were supposedly no jobs to be had. How did they do it? Proper training for realistic entry level jobs and they were determined and had a love for flying that made them stick it out even when times were hard.
If you have that determination and love for flying, then and only then will you be successful as a commercial pilot. If flying is not something you really, really, want to do as a career, then forget it. If it’s a passing fancy, get a private licence first. See how well you like it before committing to all the training. At Harv’s Air we’ll sit down and talk with you, and give you a realistic outlook on what a career in aviation could hold for you.
“Train with us, we will guarantee you a job! (as a flight instructor)”
I have seen all too many times where a student is told that if he completes all the required training with that school, he will get a job as an instructor. Only to be told on completion that due to some change (any change will do) that they cannot hire you now. Oh, and by the way thanks for giving us all your hard earned or borrowed money. Good luck and be well. Another scenario has you getting the job only to find that there are half a dozen other instructors sitting around waiting for the next student to walk in. The flight school doesn’t care how many instructors they have “employed” because they are on commission only. Meanwhile the instructor flies so little that he or she is below a starvation wage. Also consider if the flight school hires everybody as an instructor...how good of an instructor might you be getting? The numbers just do not work to promise flight instructor jobs to all students.
What do we do? First of all I cannot guarantee anyone a job. When someone is considering the instructor rating we look at how many instructors we currently have, which of them, if any, are thinking of leaving and what the likelihood is of this person being hired upon completion. If the person is someone that we would want to hire and there is no opening, that person is then the next person to be hired when there is an opening. We have hired many of the instructors that we have trained over the years and will only hire pilots we have trained. Something else to consider is that we have 3 Class 1 instructors on staff with a combined total flight time of 30000 flight hours.
“We provide all levels of training”.
Some schools advertise experience staff (100% turnover every 6 months), Multi training (no twin), Taildragger training (no taildragger), and various other training that they either don’t have the equipment, or the personnel for. Harv’s Air offers the training that we advertise. GUARANTEED. If the training is not as described in our promotional material I will refund your expenses that you have incurred.
CHECK THE FACTS.
What does all this mean? It means that you must get all the facts first. Research aviation. Talk to pilots already in the industry. Talk to students, and graduates who have trained at the school you are considering. (We can supply references from former and current students.) Even better, visit the school that you are considering. As difficult or expensive as it may be, it could be money well spent.
I would like to close by saying that for myself aviation has been the greatest career that I could have ever chosen. If you feel that aviation is the career for you, then come talk to us and let your dreams take flight.
Nakhan, moi je te suggère de faire un IUT car c'est en 2 ans et après ca dépend dans quel domaine tu es mais c'est plutot recherché. En plus, avec un bac+2 tu peux passer les cadets d'air france, et si ca ne marche pas tu peux bosser 1 an pour mettre de coté.
Moi c'est en quelque sorte la voie que j'ai choisi, je garde le canada en solution de repli ( meme si je meurs d'envie d'y aller, j'essaye de percer en europe, plus simple...)
